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Post by Eni on Nov 27, 2011 13:49:05 GMT
There, sorry, fixed the link.
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Post by Lemonfluff on Nov 27, 2011 16:20:10 GMT
I've heard of this but I don't really understand it. What is the dilemma?
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 27, 2011 16:32:12 GMT
I cant see the post?
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Post by Palagrin on Nov 27, 2011 16:32:24 GMT
Gosh Stevie, now you're pulling the sexist card ;P
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Post by Eni on Nov 27, 2011 20:32:17 GMT
You bet I'm pulling the sexist card!
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Post by pixie on Dec 26, 2011 20:49:47 GMT
hahaha. This made me laugh.
I really don't care if people love Twilight. What upsets me is when people claim it's better than Harry Potter, because I'm like "Really?! What's wrong with you??" Honestly, I read Twilight several years ago when the first book came out and I thought it was decent enough, in a "hey, I need some light reading" sort of way. I continued to read them, though by the end of the fourth was I was like "what the f*ck? These got weird." I definitely thought they got progressively worse as they went.
Here are my main thoughts against Twilight.
1.Not well planned, in my personal opinion: I really don't think Stephanie Meyer knew where she was going with the story, which is why it ended up so strange... I also think she didn't expect herself or other people to become as attached to Jacob as they/she did and therefore she couldn't bear to have him end up alone and as a result we ended up with the really f*cked up Renesmee/Jacob thing. I think the story would have been much better if she'd been able to accept that maybe Jacob really could lose the love of his life and not end up in a good place. That happens. That ending for him might have in some ways redeemed the story for me, because it would hold some honesty in it. (Even though, I like Jacob better than Edward).
2. The Bella/Edward relationship is creepy: Okay, I know, a lot of romance novels or other types of novels have messed up relationships. I am not going to say that Bella is a terrible role model for young girls, or whatever. I don't really care about that. I mean, most characters in literature are not the best role models because they're usually doing crazy things because if they weren't, it wouldn't make a very interesting story. My issue with the Bella/Edward relationship was more that I found it very difficult to connect to them as a couple when I was reading the book because it just seemed like a disturbing relationship to me. Bella seemed whiny and weak and Edward seemed obsessive and controlling. Just not my idea of romantic. I MIGHT have been able to forgive these traits and issues if I felt there was some sort of connection between them that made them better or stronger or something, but I really didn't see that... For example, have you ever seen the show Gilmore Girls? I know... a weird example, but bear with me. In the show, Rory is extremely focused, doesn't really get out, always follows the rules. Logan, on the other hand, is an arrogant and inconsiderate and doesn't think much about how his actions effect other people. They are a dysfunctional couple, especially at first, but they are redeemed to me by the fact that Logan challenges Rory to get outside of her comfort zone and really blossom as a person and, in return, Rory grounds Logan and he becomes more responsible and kind. In Twilight, however, I didn't see either Bella or Edward growing or bettering each other. It was just Edward overprotecting Bella and Bella tempting Edward....
3. The name Renesmee. That is all. Really.
Those are my main complaints agains the books.
THE MOVIES:
1. I don't even know where to begin with this...
2. The ACTING: what were the casting directors thinking??? seriously.
3. Kristen Stewart: -barf-
4. The movies (and I've only bothered to see the first two) turned me into a Jacob Black supporter. Immediately.
5. WTF when he throws her across the room in New Moon? just wtf? was that necessary?
6. Just a terribly terribly done series. disgusting.
All that said, I have no problem with people liking Twilight, even loving it. Really the only time I ever support my dislike is when it's already a discussion... as long as I don't hear them say that it's better than Harry Potter. Then I go off.
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Post by Wanderer on Dec 28, 2011 22:03:37 GMT
^This x100000.
Plus the lack of feasibility in Renesmee's birth. I mean, I get that Twilight is completely fiction, but if Stephenie Meyer is going to set her books in the real world, then certain real-life laws of biology are still going to have to apply, even to fictional vampires.
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Post by pixie on Dec 29, 2011 4:22:56 GMT
^^dude. Edward doesn't have a heartbeat = Edward doesn't have blood flow = no erections for Edward = impossible for Edward to have sex with Bella (or anyone for that matter) and knock her up, anyway....
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2011 20:17:10 GMT
^ You've just mentally scarred me :/ I really really did not want to be thinking of dead people getting erections and then you just saunter in and BAM goodbye sanity.... But its true though... When I first read them I was like " Hey I don't know what the fuss is about this is pretty bad but its not shockingly terrible" but I attribute that to the fact that I tend to scim the first time I read a novel. It was the second time that I read it my brain started making complaining noises. But again it wasnt nearly as bad as people made it out to be. By the way has anyone listened to Alex reads twilight? So funny  |
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Post by pixie on Dec 29, 2011 21:44:10 GMT
^^oh, but I have now armed you with the ability to ruin twilight at any moment for anyone with just a simple sentence. It's quite fun.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 29, 2011 21:46:48 GMT
O.o its not worth it... its not worth it at all...
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Post by pixie on Dec 30, 2011 2:16:38 GMT
^^you must be lucky. I wish that was anywhere near the most disturbing thing I'd heard.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 30, 2011 5:27:35 GMT
Ooo wanna have a most disturbing contest...
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Post by pixie on Dec 30, 2011 19:06:33 GMT
^^hahahaha. would love to. you start.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 30, 2011 19:36:34 GMT
Warning do not read unless if you want to be disgusted/sickened. I'm not liable I've seen a friend of mine (in a drunken state) kick a old fence while wearing a toga (he was dressed as Caesar) To sum it up there was a rusty nail sticking out where he kicked what proceeded to impale his big toe. Underneath his nail. Ripping it off.
As the nail went in pretty deep into his toe it got stuck and when he collapsed with pain his body moved but his impaled toe didn't. Things broke. There was blood. Quite a lot...
I didn't even realise what was happening at first I just thought he had kicked the fence and had stubbed his toe
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